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A place to start learning....
Note: The beginner's forum is for learning. I thought it would be nice to have pertinent posts
located in an easy to find location. There is a lot of slogging through the trenches one has to do to learn. This forum is the result of that thought. Some of these posts may border on the edge. Check them out and decide for yourself. PLEASE PLEASE do NOT POST in the beginner's forum your "Hi! I finally made it on the board!" or other first time posts. Do that in the GENERAL forum. I am notified when stuff gets posted here and I'll trash it if it's crap. If you happen to find a bad link...please send me an IM (click on my name) and let me know. Thank you....Gh "When the student is ready...the teacher will appear." Buddhist proverb To keep your self sane in the between times... Joke of the day thread: http://goldismoney.info/forums/showt...=134908&page=1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ If it seems the same problems continue repeating, or get worse with no logical resolution no matter what the government does. If you think there's 'something wrong', but cannot put a finger on it. Welcome. You are in the right place to figure it out. Just as the Matrix encompasses Neo's world, we too live in a 'money matrix' that is difficult to see without some understanding. The nationalized public schools will not teach it...it's not on their agenda. The government has no 'duty' to inform you, in fact the government actively obfuscates it in double-negative legalese speak. "Ignorance of the law...is no excuse." The question one should ask here is: "Exactly which law are we using here?" The answer will surprise you. Hmmm, you mean there's more than 'one kind' of law??? It's not a simple story. It's taken years to develop the subplot. It has many facets. You may have to unlearn what you believe. You must have child-like wonder to see it. On its face everything appears to be 'normal', but it is anything but. Like the magician's clever slight of hand card trick in front of your eyes you miss the trick every time...unless you know what to look for. Once you 'see it' you never miss it again. Could it really be that simple? Yes. Whether you believe in a God or not doesn't matter. What matters is the Founding Fathers did and created this country based on that belief. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." -from the preamble to the Declaration of Independence If you want to understand, get glimpse of the world we 'live' in. Take the RED pill http://www.deprogram.us/depro/ The US is a CORPORATION http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=373993 posted by Nomoss http://www.dirtyunclesam.com/ Take the 16:45min to see this. Then go to "Documents/E-Books" section of this site and read! __________________ Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein Truth is the first causality! There is nothing new under the sun accept the history you don’t know. Make it look like it’s not what it is! "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government" Thomas Jefferson. Freedom http://www.isil.org/resources/introduction.swf History http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=264300 US Banking history 1930's - While history may not repeat...it sure does rhyme! http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=385510 The Fate of Paper Money http://www.dollardaze.org/blog/?post_id=00405 BOOK: Fiat Paper Money, the history and evolution of our currency http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...f_our_currency The beginning of the FED - The Puju hearings http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=416438 Money as Debt http://www.atgpress.com/inform/ba008.htm Dispatch of Merchants http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxe...fMerchants.htm Fiat Empire - Why the Federal Reserve Violates the U.S. Constitution I want the earth, plus 5% http://www.relfe.com/plus_5_.html The Protocols of the Elders of Zion ~ see also companion post #22 below http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm How Venice Rigged the First and Worst Global Financial Collapse http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid...enice_rig.html History of US paper money http://www.ronscurrency.com/rhist.htm Who owns the national debt? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17424874/page/2/ Overview: Gold as money http://www.the-privateer.com/gold.html What is the Federal Reserve? Another opinion on the Federal Reserve - thanks Barnacle Bob! *****The Fed Was Abolished Back In 1934***** The American People can close the Federal Reserve http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=18505 Gold, How it is manipulated http://www.atgpress.com/inform/ba008.htm Another one from GATA thx Jellylegs http://www.gata.org/node/7997 The Rockefeller/Rothchilds Connection - charts http://www.fdrs.org/rockefeller.html Thomas Jefferson on banking http://yamaguchy.netfirms.com/789740...on/jefind.html Eustace Mullins - a true American hero http://yamaguchy.netfirms.com/789740...ins_index.html more Mullins http://www.whale.to/b/mullins_h.html even more Mullins http://foems.multiply.com/journal/item/96/96 Freedom to Facism - video removed from utube - try googing it. Abolish the FED petition http://www.petitiononline.com/fedres/petition.html Understanding the UCC http://www.freedom-school.com/the-ucc-connection.html Are you a 'PERSON' or a 'human being'? No Consent = No Rule This (and our laws) comes from England if you don't think you are a 'legal' person, a 'corporation' check all your documents. Corporation names are spelled out in all CAPS. Proper English spells John Doe, not JOHN DOE. Crisis Cogitations by Alf Fields ~ a good read on where this “unprecedented global financial crisis”, (the World Bank’s words), is heading http://www.24hgold.com/english/news-...redirect=False Home Schooling primer http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=294266 Naked Short selling - check bloomberg to find it. The "Broken Window" courtesy 'Merlin' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable..._broken_window Interesting ongoing thread at GIM: http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=328369 Here's the link to Deep Capture website which exposes the naked short selling http://www.deepcapture.com/ Good post by Barnacle Bob http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=8304 Good collection of viewer videos: http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=400272 Excellent post by GKhan: KYMATICA http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=347198 here is the google link to the vid Also have you seen 1) Bill Moyers exposed the secret government of the USA 20 years ago in this report. The documentary shows how Iraq happened and what’s going on with Iran, our Constitution, Foreign Policy and Democracy. This is a must see! ---unfortunately, removed by google and youtube - copywrite issues. Try googing it. 2) Evidence of Revision (1 of 5) : The Assassinations of Kennedy and Oswald This is the mindblowing 5-part video documentary series Evidence of Revision whose purpose is to present the publicly unavailable and even ... all � suppressed historical audio, video and film recordings largely unseen by the American and world public relating to the assassination of the Kennedy brothers, the little known classified "Black Ops" actually used to intentionally create the massive war in Viet Nam, the CIA "mind control" programs and their involvement in the RFK assassination and the Jonestown massacre and other important truths of our post-modern time. The U.S. Government's Orwellian "Office of Public Diplomacy" has been in existence in various forms and under various names since World War ONE. The union of American governance and American corporate interests began in Abraham Lincoln's day and the massaging of "public truth" began even before the Roman Empire. The more you know about "real history" versus "official history", the better equipped you are to see behind the lies of our times, even as they are told to you. Evidence of Revision sweeps "official truth" into the dustbin of history as it may be revised even as it is being written. Each part cca 100 min. long, 8 hours all together. A must see for everyone. Part 1: The assassinations of Kennedy and Oswald as never seen before Look at 1:25:00, 1:27:55,1:34:32, Or buy it at WING TV Nomoss |
Beginners - 2nd place to continue learning
Addendum to the beginners forum...a repost from 2005
http://web.archive.org/web/200604241...ks2educate.htm 1) The U.S. is not a country: its a corporation. 2) YOUR ARE A CORPORATION UNTIL YOU DENY IT VIA AFFIDAVIT! 3) Your birth certificate was used as a tool to enslave you. Also you marriage certificate, legally considered a corporate merger. 4) Your birth certificate is the tool that turned you into a Strawman. 5) The Two United States and the Law. 6) 15 historical facts that you thought you understood. 7) ARE WE THE ENEMY OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT? 8) THE QUEEN'S CORRUPTION - EXPOSED. 9) YOUR GOVERNMENT'S DEFINITION OF THE WORD "CITIZEN? 10) The Bankruptcy of the United States. 11) Bankruptcy and U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK. http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ (Note the day of 9-11 is when the debt surpassed the legally sustainable amount, thus the quick entrance into the unnecessary war. 12) Yes American Concentration camps are real, ready, & waiting. http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/camps.html 13) Is there $ to be made by putting people in CONCENTRATION CAMPS, prisons, & jails? 14) Bear in the mind the US Supreme Court just ruled on eminent domain...the ruling states in a nutshell that YOUR PROPERTY can be T-A-K-E-N for the greater public good. That is Communism. 15) Do you trust these guys to determine what is the greater public good for you? http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?id=3388 http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?id=3434 http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?id=3421 16) Was the PROOF in our face the whole time via the Martial Law FLAG, the flag of admiralty, indicated by the gold fringes around the edge of the flag. The same flag that flies in all our schools, all our banks, all our libraries, all of our courts, and all government buildings. Have we been asleep at the wheel? 17) Perception vs. Reality. 18) Did the Government secretly move the water line back to place EVERY ONE under a maritime admiralty martial law jurisdiction? 19) PROOF THAT YOU HAVE BEEN OVERTHROWN. 20) What can I do? Are their any steps to take toward freedom? http://www.mind-trek.com/reports/tl05b.htm http://www.mind-trek.com/reports/tl05b.htm 21) "The Truth as I see it." The DOW is Falling - good charts and proof of the dollar decline http://goldsilver.com/the_dow_is_cra...php?#OLE_LINK3 Great Myths of the Great Depression http://www.mackinac.org/article.aspx?ID=4013 |
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edit: FYI readers, this is the first link in the previous post. I left it here to give credit to the Great Ag for finding it. Gh
From the wayback machine, here is the link to wealth4freedom http://web.archive.org/web/200604241...ks2educate.htm The Great Ag |
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Here is a great understanding of Private vs Public credit
Goes along with this post http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=178864 "Sovereign Extremists" post started by TripKidd: http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=362133 Nice repository of good info. Interesting collection of posts http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=165530 Another great find by StrawMan=Corporation How to remove your home from county tax rolls. http://pauljjhansen.com/DEED_V_TITLE..._Property.html A quick history of the US: thanks to maximumrebel1 for posting If you can’t think of reasons that state secession is a better solution for liberty than working within "the system," consider the record of the Federal Government of the United States. Sure, you can ultimately lay the blame on all of us, since we are the ones who allow the atrocities of Washington to continue. But for now, let’s look at Washington’s record of achievement over the last 150 years. War of Northern Aggression – 1860s: The North wages war on a confederation of seceding states who left lawfully. Over 600,000 men died on both sides. Reconstruction: 1860s–1870s. The North plunders the South. Fractional reserve banking: counterfeiting by another name. Born in the 1800s, perfected by the Federal Reserve and central banking system of the USA. Spanish-American War – 1898: "Remember the Maine?" A complete lie told by newspaperman WR Hearst, bought by the public and Washington to go to war. Federal Reserve: established in 1913. For 96 years, it has mismanaged the economy and counterfeited currency. IRS and the Income Tax (16th Amendment): 1913. What starts out as a small tax becomes a leviathan. What starts out as a small division of the Treasury becomes the most feared weapon of Washington. World War 1: 1914–1918. 117,000 dead Americans, 205,000 wounded. The US had no business in a European family war but President Wilson had other ideas. Depression I: 1929–1940s. The Federal Reserve caused it. New Deal: 1933–1936. FDR’s massive government jobs program, plundering the wealth of the USA. Fascism by another name. World War II: 1941–1945. Another European war, we had no dog in this fight. FDR baited the Japs into attacking Pearl Harbor, giving him political cover. Cold War: The US and the USSR escalate preparations for war to new heights, spending hundreds of billions of dollars on weapons. Korean War: 1950–1953. 36,000 Americans dead, 96,000 wounded. Viet Nam: 1950–1975. 58,000 dead Americans, 303,000 wounded. Creation of three letter agencies: HEW, HHS, CIA, FDA, FCC, DOA, DOD, EPA, and the list goes on... New Cabinet bureaucracies: Energy, Education, Homeland Security, etc. Grenada invasion: 1983. 19 Americans dead, 116 wounded. Panamanian invasion 1989: 23 Americans dead, maybe 3,000 civilians killed. Bosnian War: 1992–1995: US sends troops under UN flag, millions of civilians made refugees. Gulf War: 1999. President George HW Bush commits a massive force to Kuwait. 379 Americans die, 776 wounded in a 100-hour war. Iraq: 2003–present. About 5,000 Americans dead, over 35,000 wounded (that they’ll admit to). That doesn’t count casualties of our mercenaries...I mean contractors. Afghanistan/Pakistan: 2001–present. About 1,000 Americans dead, over 4,500 wounded. That doesn’t count casualties of our mercenaries...I mean contractors. TSA: 2001–present. Domestic airline travel done "the government way." Let’s not forget... * Counterfeiting, bailouts, nationalization and massive inflation: Just another way that Washington says "you belong to me." * Regulation of every facet of human life: Try to think of a second of your life that is not regulated in some way by Washington. Quick answer: that second does not exist. * Two-party political system: two sides of the same coin, both Washington cheerleaders and sycophants. Both want to spend unconstitutional money. * Out of control military, bases in 130 nations. Here is the point to this litany of tyranny. The government of the United States of America has screwed up the entire planet through their actions over the last 150 years. The events of currency collapse and inflation in our not-too-distant future will reverberate throughout every nation on earth. States of the United States that choose to secede will certainly be affected by the implosion of the Washington government. But, could any new nation ever match the "Hall of Shame" listed above? New American nations, formed from the seceding United States, would be little pinpoints of light and liberty. If their only guiding principle was to not make the same mistakes that the US government made over the last 150 years, they would be destined for success. How could they fail? http://www.lewrockwell.com/longcore/longcore11.1.html |
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Thanks to AuNuggets for this one:
"The Alpha Strategy" - John Pugsley a .pdf - download to your machine. http://www.biorationalinstitute.com/zcontent/alpha_strategy.pdf Good read on economy. Answers the question: What is Wealth? Exposes the Carnival Economy of the US. |
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So yes, trust in God will always be true and trust in man evil. But Ron Paul is running so why not vote? And I will save you the lengthy video, if you would rather read a much shorter and more correct version, read on: Most elections only 30% vote and in the big one only about half. If those numbers collapsed all the way down to 10% do you think TPTB would really care? Go about your business, numbers on a ledger, that's all. There is only Plan A and Plan B, there are no other options currently in the arsenal. The 5 day work week was intended to be the 5 hour work week, but I can sum up the whole story here: The gifts of God, including tech advances, productivity, ingenuity and the rest have produced gigantic leaps in potential standards of living. But due to the siphoning off of these gains, we see only a small % of the fruit in the average person's life. Plan A is to change the system from within, success must be reached by Feb 5th, 2008. If that battle falls to anyone other than RP the plan is defeated, leaving only Plan B: Stop using their money, cut them out of the picture. And so the end nears, and India, China, Russia, Latin America and the rest will gladly fall victim to serfdom, it is all they know. Do not count on them to rescue the world. |
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I say make up your own mind.
In case you believe everything the government tells you... Houston...we have a problem.... |
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Martin Armstrong
If you don't know who this man is, it's time you learned: http://www.silverbearcafe.com/privat...9/curtain.html More of his writings...below http://www.martinarmstrong.org/economic_projections.htm |
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Refusal For Cause
http://www.buildfreedom.com/tl/tl16i.shtml The Pope owns America: http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=2075 Gkhan posted this: How the City of London created the Great Depression http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=2008 |
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There is a lot of good material on reddit... The Common Law Subreddit Welcome Page
There are many more videos and introductory videos >here<. There are also many forums listed there to find out more, including us at goldismoney.info! Some information on corporations... - AUSTRALIA is a corporation [ARTICLE] - Is the U.S. a corporation? [SELF] - On the bankruptcy of the US FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, 1933 [SELF] ...There's also much more on the Common Law subreddit --> (All submitted articles) |
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1) The U.S. is not a country: its a corporation.
Not only the UNITED STATES is a corporation, but so too is CANADA, the UNITED KINGDOM, AUSTRALIA, NEW ZEALAND and many other "nations" or "countries", under their own form of Maritime/Admiralty Law. - AUSTRALIA is a corporation [ARTICLE] - Is the U.S. a corporation? [SELF] proof the US is a corp http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=418784 - On the bankruptcy of the US FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, 1933 [SELF] 2) YOUR ARE A CORPORATION UNTIL YOU DENY IT VIA AFFIDAVIT! If you are uncertain where to find examples of Affidavits such as a "Notice of Understanding and Intent" and a "Claim of Right", then here are a bunch of examples. 3) Your birth certificate was used as a tool to enslave you. Also you marriage certificate, legally considered a corporate merger. 4) Your birth certificate is the tool that turned you into a Strawman. The legal-fiction or legal-entity known as the 'person' is the Strawman, also known as the Trade Name or Artificial Person. [1] Three points... - By definition, a 'person' is a legal-fiction or legal-entity created on paper for acting under a constructed jurisdiction - a closed set of rules and regulations. - A human being is NOT a 'person', but a human being HAS a 'person', in the same way he or she HAS an ID. - It is this 'person', also known by other means; the 'Citizen', 'Driver', 'Resident' etc. that acts within the laws of the incorporated society. For more information on this, check out the seminars by Robert Arthur Menard; "Bursting Bubbles of Government Deception" and "The Magnificent Deception", available >here<. The "Birth Certificate" - a type of 'negotiable instrument' [Full] "Denial of Corporate Existence" - denying your 'person' and submission to another jurisdiction [Full] "Notes on Affidavit of Denial of Corporate Existence" [Full] 5) The Two United States and the Law. - "The Two United States and the Law" by Howard Freeman - "The UCC Connection: Free Yourself from Legal Tyranny" by Howard Freeman The US is a corporation http://www.serendipity.li/jsmill/us_corporation.htm --> (All submitted articles) |
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This was posted by Goldissima (http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=327893)
Statism is dead The Matrix Free Range Empires The Truth About Voting part I The Truth About Voting part II The Truth About Voting Part 3 - Yay Obama! Screw the National Debt - You Are Not the Nation! the red pill: http://www.deprogram.us/enter.php |
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Here's a thread started by JCarvingblock
"Lots of good writing by Mullens etc. Conspiracy, alternate viewpoints." http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=165530 Interesting thread started by <SLV> on his homesteading experience: http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=327184 Acceptance for Value and other default methods. The Republic Broadcasting Network http://republicbroadcasting.org/?page_id=9 How the American News Media Works In Favor Of Israel - thanks to PatPat http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle21744.htm Holocaust liar |
The Jig is Up, Money, The Federal Reserve and You
The Jig is Up, Money, The Federal Reserve and You
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...eserve+and+You Credit Crisis Explained - Excellent! post by Angra Mania Whom does the US CONstitution apply to? Great read by "The Great Ag" http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=340789 |
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Sui Juris has resurrected as the Suijurisclub: http://www.suijurisclub.net/index.php David Merrill has placed some portions of the private - credit/public money thread in this GIM thread: http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=187833 That thread is now locked so you cannot add material. JCB |
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Repost of another great BB thread
http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=8743 Redemption by Method http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=8304 Here is a really good thread The Omnibus - or - How my friend changed the Whitefish City Court system. TheNocturnalEgyptian |
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though I'd place this great TESLA thread here in the Beginner's Forum for posterity
http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=18892 How to deal with debt collectors - thanks to 'Collector' for a great thread: http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=402511 |
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UNITED STATES is a Corporation -
There are Two Constitutions The UNITED STATES of AMERICA is a corporation.Go to the UNITED STATES CODE (note the capitalization, indicating the corporation, not the Republic) Title 28 3002 (15) (A) (B) (C). It is stated unequivocally that the UNITED STATES is a corporation. Your Remedy is in the Law. Redemption by Method. Freedom is real and attainable. |
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Just found this site http://www.truthsetsusfree.com/
it is LOADED with great information about the Federal Reserve Act US BANKRUPTCY the STRAWMAN 1929 The Great Depression Remedies in the Law Exemptions... absolutely one of the best compilations I've seen.... Another 'piece of the puzzle' - here: Very revealing interview of Norman Dodd regarding the plans of the money powers http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=420321 |
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The Occult World of Commerce
by Jason Whitney with an Introduction by Jordan Maxwell http://video.yahoo.com/watch/169831/759632 |
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Marvin Bryer speaks the truth in 1967...
To go along with the Occult World of Commerce http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9a...n-fagan_webcam |
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I recently discovered this series.
Interesting to be sure. I found it prophetic to today's events. Perhaps you will also find it to be 'illuminating'? The Illuminati Exposed 1967 Myron Fagan (1887 - 1972) Number 1 Number 2 Number 3 Number 4 - prophetic to today's war with Islam Number 5 Number 6 Number 7 Number 8 Number 9 |
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911 phone calls - fact or fiction? Thanks to 11S11ver for the link
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16924 |
A Primer On Money
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Mone...r-on-money.pdf
If you haven't read this book yet, I recommend it...penned by Wright Patman, Texas, Chairman of the Subcommittee on Domestic Finance, Committee on Banking and Currency, House of Representatives, 88th Congress, 2d Session. August 5, 1964 opening intro: "...explains in simple, everyday language, how our monetary system works and indicates where it needs reform".... another paragraph... "It may seem strange, but Congress has never developed a set of goals for guiding Federal Reserve policy. In founding the System, Congress spoke about the country's need for "an elastic currency." Since then, Congress has passed the Full Employment Act, declaring its general intention to promote "maximum employment, production and purchasing power." But it has never directly counseled the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve has filled this vacuum itself. The ends its policies are intended to achieve are those chosen by the Federal Reserve-all certainly admirable, but not necessarily those which the Federal Reserve should take on itself to pursue...." and, a thread by SLV that I ran across while verifying the above hasn't been posted yet... "The Federal Reserve System; Its Purposes and Functions" - 1939 http://goldismoney.info/forums/showt...t=primer+money and The Simple Solution to Usury, Comprehending the Power of Your Signature http://goldismoney.info/forums/showt...oses+Functions and Ownership of money and the induction of value to money http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=100359 |
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Public Debt Private Asset
booklet by the Chicago Fed can be seen online here... http://web.archive.org/web/199910051...blic_debt.html or downloaded from here... http://www.eric.ed.gov:80/ERICDocs/d...0/19/2a/74.pdf |
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Another great post on sovereignty! Thanks Po'boy!
http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=442967 |
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Thanks to Ares for this one
http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=443427 HAARP deletes records....day before the Haitian earthquake.... |
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This is a repost thanks to Hoarder! http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=448240
Paragon leader urges landowners not to give up rights By SUE ROESLER, Farm & Ranch Guide Friday, January 29, 2010 10:22 AM CST G.B. Oliver III, executive director of the Paragon Foundation Inc. BISMARCK, N.D. - Ranchers and landowners who fight government agencies over jurisdiction of land, private property rights and water rights may not realize how much power they actually have, says G.B. Oliver III, executive director of the Paragon Foundation Inc. The Paragon Foundation promotes and supports Constitutional principles, individual freedoms, private property rights and the continuation of rural customs and culture, according to its Web site (www.paragonfoundation.org). Oliver spoke to cow/calf producers at the IBAND convention in Bismarck, N.D., telling them not to give up their rights in federal courts. “Only state courts have jurisdiction over properties within their boundaries, and these cases are won and lost in the way they are pled,” Oliver said. “If the government can lure you into a federal court, your winning percentage just dropped considerably.” Oliver knows first hand what that is like. He grew up on his family's 186,000-acre ranch in New Mexico. The Army Corps of Engineers wanted their property and the ranches of 62 other families in order to construct the White Sands Missile Range on. Oliver said his parents made numerous trips to Washington, D.C., and testified before Congress. “Ours was the last ranch they took,” he said, adding they fought to save the ranch for 17 years. “We went wrong. We took the advice of counsel. Quit letting attorneys tell you how to fight.” They found out years later that their big mistake was allowing the government to battle the case in federal court. Once a property owner goes into federal court, he gives control over to the federal government, Oliver said. “Under the Constitution, the government only has control of federal forts, stockyards and post offices,” he added. “If you are not a federal fort, stockyard or post offices, the federal government has no jurisdiction over your property.” The judge in the Olivers' case, while ruling against them, did help them out. He gave them a hint that they were pleading their case wrong. So Oliver began studying the Constitution and later, as an adult and on the board of the Paragon Foundation, began winning case after case. “County commissioners, city commissioners and sheriffs are the people that actually have the power under the Constitution,” he said. “A sheriff can stand up against a federal marshall.” That is why in George Washington's time, no one wanted to be a U.S. Congressman, Oliver said. Everyone wanted to be the county commissioner. “The feds want you to go down and lawyer up,” he said. “Then the lawyer will take you to federal district courts.” He recommends producers with problems over property rights respond appropriately and quickly to notices from government agencies but ask them in a letter, “What authority do you have in this matter?” Oliver said agencies will not be able to answer that question because they are “hoping you won't ask that question.” Under the Constitution, they do not have authority over individual property rights within state boundaries. “Don't enter into a conflict with them. They (federal agencies) have to answer your letter,” he said, adding property owners can send a letter back responding that they believe the agency has “no authority over the case.” He pointed to a recent case the Paragon Foundation won for the city of Scottsdale, Ariz. Three counties were involved in an environmental dispute where the EPA wanted to put a dust ordinance on the county. Oliver said the city had 19 attorneys on its staff, but they hired the Paragon Foundation. The Paragon Foundation questioned the EPA's right to jurisdiction over the counties and did not go into federal court. The EPA had no way to go foward with the action. “You are blessed with unalienable rights under the Constitution,” he said. “Never forget how powerful you are.” He is recently seeing a lot of problems with tourism, and water rights. “Water is a big deal. Some federal organizations are trying to take it.” Oliver said. However, the federal government has no jurisdiction over water within the borders of any state. “Federal agents have no law enforcement authority.” Oliver said freedom has “never been an easy game. Educate yourself.” Whether it be environmental organizations or heritage organizations, these federal groups cannot take control over water or property rights unless it is freely given, he said. Paragon Foundation: http://www.paragonfoundation.org/ |
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